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Glenn Beck is an Idiot

11 June, 2009

Glenn Beck is an idiot.  (And grass is green, the sky is gray, and scrapple is delicious.)  Either that, or he is severely dyslexic (I am mildly dyslexic (mostly number orders and left-right)).  Why do I say this?  While talking out of his ass about the shooting at the Holocaust Memorial, he said (from C&L): 

Beck: This is not the work of right-wing conservatives. This is the work of someone today who is racist, crazy, or most likely, both. Common sense tells you that there are very hateful people on the Right and the Left.

That’s right.  Somehow, in Beck’s mind, von Brunn is not a ‘right-wing conservative.’  Which means he is an idiot, dyslexic, or a dark comedian.  And, he was going after the ones who are always the targets when there is a witch hunt:

Beck:  There is gonna be a witchhunt, I believe, in this country, and quite possibly all around the world. For two groups. First group: Jews. It happens every time.

Second group: I think, Conservatives.

… Meanwhile, the Department of Homeland Security reports about right-wing extremists. You remember that came out a few weeks ago? Left-wing bloggers and some in the media have blamed conservative hosts like me or Bill O’Reilly for just stirring the pot! I’m not stirring the pot. I’m pointing out the pot is boiling and there is trouble in America. Since when — have you ever heard of ‘don’t blame the messenger’?

Von Brunn is a right-wing conservative nutjob (from the Southern Poverty Law Center). 

Von Brunn runs the website holywesternempire.org, which was listed invon Brunn website2008 as a hate site by the Southern Poverty Law Center. Von Brunn has a long history of associations with prominent neo-Nazis and Holocaust deniers. In the 1980s or early 1990s, von Brunn was employed by Noontide Press, a part of the Holocaust denying Institute of Historical Review, which was then run by Willis Carto, one of America’s most prominent anti-Semites.

Von Brunn is the author of the 1999 book, “Kill the Best Gentiles,” a racist and anti-Semitic tome that argues that whites are seeing “today on the world stage a tragedy of enormous proportions: the calculated destruction of the White Race and the incomparable culture it represents. Europe, former fortress of the West, is now over-run by hordes of non-Whites and mongrels.” A raging anti-Semite, von Brunn blames “The Jews” for the destruction of the West. The book is dedicated to prominent neo-Nazis and racists including Revilo Oliver and Wilmot Robertson.

In 2003, AP reported that von Brunn had painted a portrait of Rear Adm. John Crommelin, a raging anti-Semite who was a close associate of neo-Nazi William Pierce, whose book The Turner Diaries inspired Timothy McVeigh’s bombing of the Oklahoma City federal building.

von BrunnOn his website, von Brunn also claims that in 1981, while wearing a “London Fog raincoat to conceal his weapons,” he attempted to put the whole Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve under “legal, non-violent citizens-arrest.” He wanted “to bind their hands and persuade them to appear on television.” The website says he was sentenced to 11 years for his actions.

A raging anti-Semitic and racist posting on the website arsenalofhypocrisy.com attributed to “James Von Brunn” says that “the Federal Reserve Act (1913) gave JEWS control of America’s Money.” It also says that “America is a Third-World racial garbage dump–stupid, ignorant, dead-broke, and terminal.” It ends with, “Prepare to die, Whitey.”

Like Roeder and  Poplawski, von Brunn is an extreme conservative, a believer in many of the myths of the far right (Jews control the Federal Reserve, the federal government is illegal, taxes are illegal, Obama will take the guns away, Obama is not an American and is thus a usurper), and a nutjob.  They are/were mentally unstable individuals fed a diet of conspiracy by the media right (such as Glen Beck (FEMA concentration camps, incipient socialism/fascism, fed conspiracies)).

Not only that, but the Department of Homeland Security called it right.

Please note that I am not saying that all conservatives are terrorists.  Nor am I saying that there are not violent and unstable individuals on the left.  The right should, of course, recognize that this is conservative paranoia brought to its illogical extreme.

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9 comments

  1. Billy, I saw Glenn Beck do an episode in which he had on an editor of Popular Mechanics in which they did a good job debunking the leading FEMA concentration camp series. One concentration camp was actually an Amtrak repair facility. Another FEMA concentration camp was a satellite photo of a North Korean concentration camp that someone stuck a FEMA logo onto. So is it correct for you to name Glenn Beck and then put FEMA Concentration camps in brackets right after his name – when actually Glenn Beck did a bang-up job discrediting the theory? Did that make conspiracy theorists happy?


  2. Thomas: He did, after numerous instances in which he fed the conspiracy (see here for one example where he ponders whether FEMA is setting up concentration camps and here where he he is quoted as stating that he ‘cannot debunk’ the idea), have a program to debunk the idea which he had helped to feed. His full embrace of what can best be called the Fox Militia movement has led to him, on a couple of occasions, backtracking and debunking what he helped to spread. And he tries to make himself look the hero when he debunks a conspiracy theory aided.

    Did it make the conspiracy theorists happy? Most likely not. One man I know who buys into this crap told me that Beck had to ‘debunk’ it or Obama was going to take him off the air. One of the things I love about conspiracy theories is that they always win: no evidence? ah, a coverup. No proof? ah, the police/FBI/CIA/scientists are lying. Beck gets it coming and going. And yes, he is doing a great job stirring the pot for the extreme radical right wing of the American polity.


  3. “Stirring the pot”? (((Billy))), that’s unfair. He’s simply pointing out that the pot is boiling over… while holding a blow-torch to the bottom of the pot, which, (and even you have to admit this), he is doing his level best to extinguish with a bucket of gasoline. “Stirring the pot”, forsooth.


  4. Hi Billy,

    I am glad that you knew all along that Glenn Beck had
    a “program to debunk” the FEMA concentration camps theory. I didn’t get that from reading your blog.

    Now, what are you attributing the change in Glenn Becks’ position to?


  5. Postie: I’m reminded of an old Herblock cartoon in which a redneck is beating a protester. He is saying, “I said there would be trouble and you ain’t gonna make a liar out of me.”

    Thomas: Don’t know. Could be sanity, but given much of the other dreck he spews, I doubt it.


  6. Billy, are you very familiar with Glenn Beck? Do you watch him or do you just hear from others what he says. I find that Olbermann spends a lot of time reporting on what Fox news people are saying. The last four times I’ve seen him give out Worst Person In the World Awards he has always included Fox personalities like Glenn Beck (1)time. Bill O’Reilly (2) times and Rupert Murdoch (1) time getting a runner up mention.

    What specifically are you most concerned about when use the word “dreck”? Who came up with the clever use of “dreck” when referring to Glenn Beck? It rhymes nicely.


  7. Thomas: I read the transcripts of some of his programs. I do not watch cable TV.

    Dreck means Shit. Scheisse. However you want to put it.

    Beck has been adding to the fire since Obama was elected. He has promised the equivalent of civil war. He has repeatedly stated that Obama wants to take away guns. He repeatedly flogged the FEMA concentration camp conspiracy until, for some reason I do not comprehend, decided to debunk himself. Beck, O’Reilly, Coulter, Limbaugh, et al have been feeding the paranoid right and then have the nerve to act surprised when policemen are shot by right-wing extremeists in Pittsburg, a doctor is murdered in Kansas, and a white-supremacist right-winger opens fire at the Holocaust Museum in DC. The extreme right wing of America has decided that Obama is creating a socialist, or fascist, or some-other-ist state and the media right is encouraging the radicals to ‘take up arms.’ This is what I call shit. Or Dreck. Or Schiesse.

    Next time I use a word you do not understand, just ask. You don’t need to assume I am being cute. I just prefer it to shit.

    And I object to your repeated insinuation that a) I am ignorant of whatever it is about which I am writing and b) that if I only accept your version of ‘truth’ (ignoring the facts and opinions at my hand) I will recant what I have written. I am more than willing to discuss, debate and argue. If you state something with which I disagree, I state my disagreement and, if I am unfamiliar with the argument or evidence, I will ask. I do not automatically assume that, because you have a different viewpoint, you must be ignorant. I object so strenuously to this type of argument because it is exactly the type of argument often used by Christians who are attempting to convert me. It is a bad arguing tactic.

    Feel free to continue, but don’t assume that because I disagree, I must be ignorant.


  8. I am probably more ignorant of things than you realize. You did recently accuse me of “deliberately conflating”. It is highly likely that you are more familiar with O’Reilly, Coulter, Limbaugh, whom I have rarely find the need to listen to. I’ll listen to Olbermann more than those others. O’ Reilly is dry and uninteresting – I just never seem to watch him.

    Coulter is yikes (insanity incarnate?), like her eyes and behavior telegraph insanity and self-seeking cheap shots? Limbaugh doesn’t seem to me to care deeply about the country and I don’t like when people say “[fill in the name of an opposing political group or opposing ideaological movement] always do [some bad or mischievous thing] and they never [act honestly, fairly or do what is right]”.

    I’ve been watching Beck intermittently (about 1/2 the time) for the past few months – and just occasionally before that.
    Beck is about crazy as he says he is. He admits it. That is a plus. As unhinged as he is at times I really feel that he is by and large sincere.

    Beck doesn’t only dislike Obama. He dislikes Mike Huckabee and calls him a big government progressive. He also seems to dislike the rest of the Republican party and he espouses libertarian ideas. I don’t think he is being too out in the open about his contempt for Mike Huckabee – because Mike has a weekend program on the same network! Beck says the only one he trusts in government is Ron Paul. He thinks people should vote them all out whether they are Democratic or Republican.

    I don’t agree with everything he says and I frequently skip over sections of his show.

    Now, I don’t know if anyone else thinks this. It seems to me that Olbermann is stylistically similar to Limbaugh in how they each broadbrush opponents.

    Now, I think stylistically I’ve seen some similarities between the cutesy coy approach taken by both Rachel Maddow and Glenn Beck. Is one of them stylistically borrowing from the other? If so, who is borrowing from who? I am new to watching this stuff.

    Just keep in mind that Glenn Beck is a perpetual cannon – he is going to attack whoever is in office. He believes that eventually he will be shut down or lose his program whether by Democrats or by Republicans.

    I think the government can (and should) play a larger role for good in the world than what Glenn Beck thinks.

    I do admit to being concerned that when the US government starts controlling private enterprise and setting wages that there is a big temptation for Private Enterprise to grease the palms of politicians by way of political contributions. If a big CEO wants a raise will he be tempted to make sure that he has given generously to those who have the power to control his wage? You betcha!

    The unholy alliance between big government and big corporations is only going to get stronger! Big contributors and their lobbyists can write the laws to their advantage and to the detriment of smaller innovative companies. Now, smaller car companies are probably unlikely to get started as dealerships are forced out of business almost immediately and have to liquidate their products now. With all these big companies with high paid workers (much higher paid than I have ever been – anyway!) on life support – how will some of the smaller car companies ever be able to get off the ground?
    Glenn Beck opposes government control of companies. I don’t even know if he opposes it for the same reason that I stated. I am concerned about the need for companies to pay off their regulators and congressional overseers! What will stop companies from offering good jobs to there most supportive politicians – if the politician doesn’t get reelected. This type of thing has been happening for a long time. The bigger government gets – I think the more corrupt the whole system becomes.

    Glenn Beck has exposed some behavior and hypocrisy done by congressional operatives. He is also trying to expose ACORN and its tactics.

    Don’t you think Glenn is doing some good by doing these things? And aren’t some liberal media people doing good to? Should any government person be beyond scrutiny?

    Sure, a person here or there gets shot. You haven’t proved your case that these people were motivated by Glenn Beck. These people have their own extremist websites they go to.

    The shooter in the DC museum shares some of your views and shares some of mine too! We both are in favor of evolution! He took his anti-Jewish beliefs even to the point of attacking the Apostle Paul as an agent of deception.

    Hitler exercised his control over German Industry even starting the Volkswagen (the people’s car). Is that capitalism or socialism? Pardon me if I disagree with calling the Nazi socialist movement and those who espouse it as being “right-wing” as opposed to “left-wing”. You are just using this terminology about what is left and right wing to link problems where their is no solid link.

    You could make a case linking some of the abortion movement murders with those who espouse their cause. Keep in mind that at some point this can be turned around. Recently someone who disagreed with what America has done in Iraq has shot a couple people outside a recruiting office. At some point you might find that someone who agrees with your views commits a violent act. Maybe at some point a protest will turn violent and people who share your views will be responsible for deaths. I hope that you will be able take the responsibility for anyone that you make angry and take responsibility for their actions. The only reason that I am saying this is not that I believe that you are doing a great evil – I just think that you are setting the bar very high on what the behavior of others should be. You (I am guessing) are not a gun proponent so maybe that will give you a little wiggleroom in escaping the same blame that you place on right-wingers who are often gun proponents.

    Still, if government interventionist policies harm the economy (In China there is no government safety net) and we have less taxes coming in – a shrinking industrial base or if discontinuing the missile defense program makes us vulnerable to an EMP attack. Lives will be lost. Policies that you support could conceivably cost lives.
    http://dsc.discovery.com/videos/future-weapons-emp-bomb.html

    Now, maybe Obama will be a good peacemaker and a good President. I ought to pray more regularly for him – I pray intermittently about such things. I think my prayer life is atrocious. I have not always spoken about Obama and many people as respectfully as I should. So, in some way, I may have contributed to the anger of some people. And one person affects another person who may in turn affect another person.

    I hope you don’t mind that I might decrease the amount of time I spend watching Glenn Beck. I hope that your criticisms of him stay fair and I won’t start watching him too much to see if he is as bad as you say.


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