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		<title>By: the chaplain</title>
		<link>http://iambilly.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/six-aguments-for-the-existence-of-god/#comment-5190</link>
		<dc:creator>the chaplain</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 11 Jul 2009 17:21:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;If a person opposes even the possibility of there being a God, then any evidence can be rationalized or explained away.&lt;/i&gt;

Do any of you know any atheists who &quot;oppose even the &lt;b&gt;possibility&lt;/b&gt; of there being a god?&quot; I don&#039;t. Can anyone say &quot;straw man?&quot;

Nor do I believe this is a &quot;hate&quot; blog. Of course, I&#039;m a godless heathen so that would be my opinion.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>If a person opposes even the possibility of there being a God, then any evidence can be rationalized or explained away.</i></p>
<p>Do any of you know any atheists who &#8220;oppose even the <b>possibility</b> of there being a god?&#8221; I don&#8217;t. Can anyone say &#8220;straw man?&#8221;</p>
<p>Nor do I believe this is a &#8220;hate&#8221; blog. Of course, I&#8217;m a godless heathen so that would be my opinion.</p>
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		<title>By: advertisinglies</title>
		<link>http://iambilly.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/six-aguments-for-the-existence-of-god/#comment-5166</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 10 Jul 2009 04:25:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;As to why I am here, just trying to bring a little civility and open-mindedness to a hate blog.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Please see this video regarding open-mindedness:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T69TOuqaqXI</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>As to why I am here, just trying to bring a little civility and open-mindedness to a hate blog.</p></blockquote>
<p>Please see this video regarding open-mindedness:</p>
<p><span style="text-align:center; display: block;"><a href="http://iambilly.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/six-aguments-for-the-existence-of-god/"><img src="http://img.youtube.com/vi/T69TOuqaqXI/2.jpg" alt="" /></a></span></p>
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		<title>By: (((Billy)))</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 22:19:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Philly:  One of the great things about most religions is that they can use anything (or almost anything) to support one of their contradictory positions.

RC:  First of all, the essay I was critiquing was written by &lt;b&gt;Marilyn&lt;/b&gt; Adamson.  So unless you have personal knowledge about this writer, why use &quot;Mr. Adamson&quot;?  Do you automatically assume that women cannot write effectively (or (in this case) inneffectively)?

Second:  I have concluded that you are either batshit crazy or you are a Poe.  Either way, you are entertaining.

Philly:  Excellent!

Philly:  D&#039;oh!

RC:  You?  Civility?  I do not &#039;police or control&#039; my blog.  It is a free speech zone.  This is why people like you and Abe have free reign to show the world just how ignorant you are.

And Anchor Steam?  Good beer.  Coors?  No flavour, no body, no reason to drink it.

Philly:  Beer?  I think RC is making a pass at you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Philly:  One of the great things about most religions is that they can use anything (or almost anything) to support one of their contradictory positions.</p>
<p>RC:  First of all, the essay I was critiquing was written by <b>Marilyn</b> Adamson.  So unless you have personal knowledge about this writer, why use &#8220;Mr. Adamson&#8221;?  Do you automatically assume that women cannot write effectively (or (in this case) inneffectively)?</p>
<p>Second:  I have concluded that you are either batshit crazy or you are a Poe.  Either way, you are entertaining.</p>
<p>Philly:  Excellent!</p>
<p>Philly:  D&#8217;oh!</p>
<p>RC:  You?  Civility?  I do not &#8216;police or control&#8217; my blog.  It is a free speech zone.  This is why people like you and Abe have free reign to show the world just how ignorant you are.</p>
<p>And Anchor Steam?  Good beer.  Coors?  No flavour, no body, no reason to drink it.</p>
<p>Philly:  Beer?  I think RC is making a pass at you.</p>
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		<title>By: Rational Christian</title>
		<link>http://iambilly.wordpress.com/2009/07/07/six-aguments-for-the-existence-of-god/#comment-5138</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 19:12:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What is your beer of choice?  I like Anchor Steam and Coors.

As to why I am here, just trying to bring a little civility and open-mindedness to a hate blog.  And why is that your section?  Shouldn&#039;t Billy the Ignorant be policing and controllng his own blog?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What is your beer of choice?  I like Anchor Steam and Coors.</p>
<p>As to why I am here, just trying to bring a little civility and open-mindedness to a hate blog.  And why is that your section?  Shouldn&#8217;t Billy the Ignorant be policing and controllng his own blog?</p>
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		<title>By: PhillyChief</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Determined to &lt;b&gt;not&lt;/b&gt; see reality. Damn my haste! Oh the irony. :(</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Determined to <b>not</b> see reality. Damn my haste! Oh the irony. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: PhillyChief</title>
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		<dc:creator>PhillyChief</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 18:30:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;You can explore all of creation and see His Holy Hand in all that exists&lt;/blockquote&gt;
&lt;a href=&quot;http://youmademesayit.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-wish-it-were-true-cause-that-would-be.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;You can see anything you wish if you REALLY want to&lt;/a&gt;

&lt;blockquote&gt;Science continualy shows us that God must exist.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Oh DO elaborate on this claim, please. 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Mr. Adamsons proofs above are logically and scientifically unasailable unless one is determinged not to see reality.&lt;/blockquote&gt;
It appears they&#039;ve been assailed, and quite logically. Perhaps you are the one determined to see reality, and the need for a spellchecker.

&lt;blockquote&gt;This method requires an open mind&lt;/blockquote&gt;
Why is it when people like this say &quot;open mind&quot;, they really mean &quot;deluded mind&quot;? Yes, you&#039;re open minded, open to ignoring reality in favor of embracing a fantasy and yes, I&#039;m too close minded to go there.

Now I did try to show you the error of your ways through proof some weeks ago.  I&#039;ll try again.  These, of course, are proofs you cannot slander as you do to reality.

Fact: You are irrational. People who ignore reality in favor of fantasy are irrational.

Fact: You are irrational. To go to an atheist blog spouting irrational religious ramblings as facts is irrational.

Fact: You are irrational. To engage in an intellectual exercise where intellectualism is prized and not bother to spellcheck is irrational.

Fact: You are irrational. &quot;Rational Christian&quot; is an oxymoron, so having that as a moniker is irrational, or a wonderfully comical name if you&#039;re a Poe. ;)

I bless you and all who seek the taste for fine beer, unless of course there&#039;s only one left, in which case bugger off, it&#039;s mine. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>You can explore all of creation and see His Holy Hand in all that exists</p></blockquote>
<p><a href="http://youmademesayit.blogspot.com/2009/07/i-wish-it-were-true-cause-that-would-be.html" rel="nofollow">You can see anything you wish if you REALLY want to</a></p>
<blockquote><p>Science continualy shows us that God must exist.</p></blockquote>
<p>Oh DO elaborate on this claim, please. </p>
<blockquote><p>Mr. Adamsons proofs above are logically and scientifically unasailable unless one is determinged not to see reality.</p></blockquote>
<p>It appears they&#8217;ve been assailed, and quite logically. Perhaps you are the one determined to see reality, and the need for a spellchecker.</p>
<blockquote><p>This method requires an open mind</p></blockquote>
<p>Why is it when people like this say &#8220;open mind&#8221;, they really mean &#8220;deluded mind&#8221;? Yes, you&#8217;re open minded, open to ignoring reality in favor of embracing a fantasy and yes, I&#8217;m too close minded to go there.</p>
<p>Now I did try to show you the error of your ways through proof some weeks ago.  I&#8217;ll try again.  These, of course, are proofs you cannot slander as you do to reality.</p>
<p>Fact: You are irrational. People who ignore reality in favor of fantasy are irrational.</p>
<p>Fact: You are irrational. To go to an atheist blog spouting irrational religious ramblings as facts is irrational.</p>
<p>Fact: You are irrational. To engage in an intellectual exercise where intellectualism is prized and not bother to spellcheck is irrational.</p>
<p>Fact: You are irrational. &#8220;Rational Christian&#8221; is an oxymoron, so having that as a moniker is irrational, or a wonderfully comical name if you&#8217;re a Poe. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I bless you and all who seek the taste for fine beer, unless of course there&#8217;s only one left, in which case bugger off, it&#8217;s mine. <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Rational Christian</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 17:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>HTere are two ways to discover the reality of God.  You can explore all of creation and see His Holy Hand in all that exists.  Science continualy shows us that God must exist.  Mr. Adamsons proofs above are logically and scientifically unasailable unless one is determinged not to see reality.  This method requires an open mind.  Second, you can find the love of God through acceptance of His love.  This requires nothing more than an open heart.  Third, you can find the love of God throught the Holy Bible, the Word of God made real.  Open your mind, open your heart and open your Bible and you will find God.

Now I did try to show you the error of your ways through proof some weeks ago.  I&#039;ll try again.  These, of course, are proofs you cannot slander as you do to Mr. Adamsnon&#039;s proof of God.

Fact: God exists and takes a personal interest in all humans. Atheists – who are actually God haters since it is impossible to not believe in God – are humans so God loves atheists who just refuse to return the love and return it with hate instead.

Fact: God exists and takes a personal interest in all humans. He knows every human through all eternity. Therefore God loves unborn babies even the ones who are wontonly murdered by God haters.

Fact: God exists and takes a personal interest in all humans. This is stated clearly in the Bible the one uncoruptable Book in all of history. The Bible was written by God. Therefore, since it is impossible to not believe in reality, atheists hate God or are in rebellion against God, and know that God exists.

Fact: God exists and takes a personal interest in all humans. He sent his only Son to die a horrible death to give all humans an opportunity to accept God and erase the sin present in every single human. Therefore, Jesus died for the sins of all humans, including atheists who can still be saved if they accept the love of God and Jesus.

Fact: God exists and takes a personal interest in all humans. You are human.  God takes an interest in you.  You must find your own way through logic, or reality, or just accepting who He is.

You ignored that just as you ignore the proof submitted by Mr. Adamson.  Since logic will not work, try just accepting the love of God.  He will make Himself known to you.  Just accept.

Open your mind or open your heart or open your Bible.  Any way will work as God loves you.

I dont want any human to spend eternity which is a long long time, in hell being consumed by fire, boiling blood, tortured by demons and living forever in hell.  God&#039;s love and Jesus;s  sacrifice can save you but onlyif you open your heart to the actual and verfiable love of God.  God loves you and if you harden your heart to Him you will suffer eternal dammation.  It is free will, but Jesuses path to God is the only one that will save you from the eternal torments of hell.

God Bless You and all who seek the love of God.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>HTere are two ways to discover the reality of God.  You can explore all of creation and see His Holy Hand in all that exists.  Science continualy shows us that God must exist.  Mr. Adamsons proofs above are logically and scientifically unasailable unless one is determinged not to see reality.  This method requires an open mind.  Second, you can find the love of God through acceptance of His love.  This requires nothing more than an open heart.  Third, you can find the love of God throught the Holy Bible, the Word of God made real.  Open your mind, open your heart and open your Bible and you will find God.</p>
<p>Now I did try to show you the error of your ways through proof some weeks ago.  I&#8217;ll try again.  These, of course, are proofs you cannot slander as you do to Mr. Adamsnon&#8217;s proof of God.</p>
<p>Fact: God exists and takes a personal interest in all humans. Atheists – who are actually God haters since it is impossible to not believe in God – are humans so God loves atheists who just refuse to return the love and return it with hate instead.</p>
<p>Fact: God exists and takes a personal interest in all humans. He knows every human through all eternity. Therefore God loves unborn babies even the ones who are wontonly murdered by God haters.</p>
<p>Fact: God exists and takes a personal interest in all humans. This is stated clearly in the Bible the one uncoruptable Book in all of history. The Bible was written by God. Therefore, since it is impossible to not believe in reality, atheists hate God or are in rebellion against God, and know that God exists.</p>
<p>Fact: God exists and takes a personal interest in all humans. He sent his only Son to die a horrible death to give all humans an opportunity to accept God and erase the sin present in every single human. Therefore, Jesus died for the sins of all humans, including atheists who can still be saved if they accept the love of God and Jesus.</p>
<p>Fact: God exists and takes a personal interest in all humans. You are human.  God takes an interest in you.  You must find your own way through logic, or reality, or just accepting who He is.</p>
<p>You ignored that just as you ignore the proof submitted by Mr. Adamson.  Since logic will not work, try just accepting the love of God.  He will make Himself known to you.  Just accept.</p>
<p>Open your mind or open your heart or open your Bible.  Any way will work as God loves you.</p>
<p>I dont want any human to spend eternity which is a long long time, in hell being consumed by fire, boiling blood, tortured by demons and living forever in hell.  God&#8217;s love and Jesus;s  sacrifice can save you but onlyif you open your heart to the actual and verfiable love of God.  God loves you and if you harden your heart to Him you will suffer eternal dammation.  It is free will, but Jesuses path to God is the only one that will save you from the eternal torments of hell.</p>
<p>God Bless You and all who seek the love of God.</p>
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		<title>By: PhillyChief</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 13:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually, I think theists use Gödel to support their claim of their god being outside the universe.

To edit Cable on #5, he left out a couple of possibilities:
• that there&#039;s more than one god entity
• one side is getting a message from a god entity, and the other side is hallucinating 

Josephus&#039; Christ paragraph is generally regarded as a forgery, most likely by Eusebius. The 4th century was a notorious time for such things. They rationalized it by thinking that the motivation for doing it was actually the hand of god prompting them. A rationalization I think Calvin later made a virtue.

There&#039;s a fun podcast called the Guerilla Radio Show, recordings from a college radio show about philosophy. One show is dedicated to the arguments for the existence of god. They also have ones on the Problem of Evil, Free Will, and other fun topics.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, I think theists use Gödel to support their claim of their god being outside the universe.</p>
<p>To edit Cable on #5, he left out a couple of possibilities:<br />
• that there&#8217;s more than one god entity<br />
• one side is getting a message from a god entity, and the other side is hallucinating </p>
<p>Josephus&#8217; Christ paragraph is generally regarded as a forgery, most likely by Eusebius. The 4th century was a notorious time for such things. They rationalized it by thinking that the motivation for doing it was actually the hand of god prompting them. A rationalization I think Calvin later made a virtue.</p>
<p>There&#8217;s a fun podcast called the Guerilla Radio Show, recordings from a college radio show about philosophy. One show is dedicated to the arguments for the existence of god. They also have ones on the Problem of Evil, Free Will, and other fun topics.</p>
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		<title>By: (((Billy)))</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:25:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bruce:  Thank you.  Did you notice how quickly Josephus, McDowell and Pascal showed up?  You can almost put money on it, neh?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bruce:  Thank you.  Did you notice how quickly Josephus, McDowell and Pascal showed up?  You can almost put money on it, neh?</p>
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		<title>By: Bruce Llama</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 08 Jul 2009 02:22:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely done Billy.</description>
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