Comments on: Atheist Morality

By: asl001

asl001 — Fri, 18 Apr 2008 04:15:45 +0000

Good post. I recently posted a blog very similar to this. Check it out:

http://anthonylane.wordpress.com/2008/04/16/what-is-your-purpose/

By: PhillyChief

PhillyChief — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 14:40:47 +0000

You didn’t try to explore shit there Zachary. What you showed was a pathetically veiled pontification. The only examples of “exploration” I see are quote mining Sartre (who, it’s clear, you clearly don’t understand) and finding an atheist blog to post a link to your drivel. Nice hunting, pal. You know what would have been good to explore for that post of yours Zach (aside from a proper understanding of Sartre, atheism, secular humanism, and perhaps Existentialism)? Euthyphro.

I see no point in posting a reply there though. Your readers are clearly drinking the same kool-aid, probably from the same dirty cup, and I certainly don’t want to give you any appearance of legitimacy by appearing there.

By: tysdaddy

tysdaddy — Mon, 07 Apr 2008 01:03:59 +0000

Interesting post, Billy.

It’s a shame you’ve not come across some truly compassionate Christians. They exist. I am friends with many, despite my own skeptical attitude toward all things religious.

When the end is nothing more than getting out of here and living with God, then unfortunately many issues go the way of the back burner. Why care if it’ll all work out in the end? Sad, really.

Nice food for thought, Billy. Always a pleasure . . .

By: Ric

Ric — Sun, 06 Apr 2008 16:29:08 +0000

If you feel, as a Christian, that if there wasn’t a god you would start raping and killing, then please, don’t stop believing.

If you’re going to be forgiven for everything you do, no matter how bad (rape and killing being right up there in the big bads), then you have no functioning morality. It no longer matters how you live, what you do, who you rape, who you kill. Christians get a free pass to immorality. It can be said that their lives have no moral underpinnings.

Of course I’m sure they’re clever enough to quote some piece of scripture that ‘proves’ that’s not true. But it’s fruit of the poisoned tree. Supernatural forgiveness negates earthly morality. You can’t have your poison fruit and eat it too.

By: sabrina

sabrina — Sun, 06 Apr 2008 02:54:39 +0000

Zachary: Is there some reason that Christians think the world began with Jesus? Or that the teaching of Jesus were known throughout the world? They had a code of ethics that rivaled the Ten Commandments in the Middle East, called Hammurabi’s Code. The far east had the teachings of Confuscious. India had the teachings of the Buddha. Even classical Greeks, who were unaware of Judaism(and Christianity wasn’t even around) had the teachings of Epicurus and Democritus. If you feel, as a Christian, that if there wasn’t a god you would start raping and killing, then please, don’t stop believing.
The problem that I have with “Christian morality” is that people have used it to endorse bad things. It has been used to endorse slavery, the oppression of women and minorities, and, even today, its being used to oppress and demonise homosexuals. The secular belief of humanity is that we should treat everyone equally, how we would want to be treated, and to live in peace. Unlike our president, we can’t console ourselves by thinking the young people we send to war are going to heaven. We know that their lives are just wasted based on bronze age fairy tales.
To be brutally honest, I don’t believe Christians can even compare to a secular morality. They’re too busy fighting wars, killing gays, and trying to shove their religion down everyone else’s throats. The oxymoron for me is the concept of Christian morality. True morality is not the fear of punishment and retribution by an all knowing god, its being moral because you know its the right thing to do.
By the way, I do not accept the response “well, they’re just not true Christians”. These people could probably out scripture you, and its sheer arrogance to think you’re the “right” Christian and everyone else is reading the bible wrong.

By: Zachary

Zachary — Sat, 05 Apr 2008 20:55:45 +0000

I hope you don’t find the of the following post offensive, but it was mainly to provoke a readership. I have tried to explore the ideas of an atheist moral system in this post, http://truthisasnare.wordpress.com/2007/12/23/atheism-or-morality-whatll-it-be/ which you might find interesting.

I would also like to say that I really like your wife’s term of “Life Cheaters.” I’m going to have to use that one! I think the thing that most so-called “Christians” don’t understand is Aristotle’s saying,
“You are what you repeatedly do.”
And if they repeatedly do immoral things, it starts to become part of their soul and their character. And if they think that God can just ‘forgive’ them, they have a very childish understanding of Forgiveness indeed!